Underground Interview and show-comments and insights about show....

[Clifford Black]

As most are aware that a show has been posted on Mr. Porter's page........if U are having trouble finding the show go to the members tab---put the name Tamarques Porter into the search---at the TP page look on the left for his music list and there u will find the 'SHOW'---Underground July4th.....Please make comments that u may have about the show on this thread---THANK YOU---NAMASKA!!!!!!!

[Clifford Black]

Underground Rail Road, July 4
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Reply |Joe D. Bell to me
show details 12:22 AM (19 hours ago)


There were several statements/questions that were made/raised regarding Power, Process of Thinking, and Reasoning to which I have responded to. The problem is that there was no place, that I could see, to reply to those questions on the site. So I am responding in this email my thoughts about each of these terms:

Power: what is it and what does it do or what can be done with it? How does one get it, if desired? And what does he/she do with it once it is acquired? To proceed with understanding of power, one must know what power means; our dictionary class is showing us how to start with a single word, breaking it down to its root meaning, making it clear as to what a word means; this does help one to understand whether he/she even wants, in this case, power. Oh yes, we have seen or known of people who push other people around and that is a form of power. Then there is the one who has positive influence on others in that they only have to talk about what is or can be done by themselves and others to get things done.



Then that leads to the question of how many forms of power there are? I would suggest many, many, many forms. So, I suppose that we can start anywhere we want, determine the meaning of one form of power, and determine how one could benefit from it in his/her endeavors. Develop a plan and then develop a confidence and skills in implementing that power, and then explore the many other aspects of power one at a time; duplicate the development of confidence and the skills development used earlier. And after a while one becomes a real power house in putting together a plethora of experiences and skills.



Before long you start duplicating yourself with other people you like and trust and then you do pretty much whatever you want to do in life.



If you develop power in the field of business, you can form and grow businesses in any field. You will attract other very capable people to your team. From this point of view, you will never have to throw a punch to make other businesses respect you; and if they are unhappy with you, show hostility towards you, all you have to do is buy them out.



About thinking, reasoning and rational thought, these are terms we need to know the meaning of. After learning what they mean, then we can know when and where to apply them. We can learn the process, this is not rocket science, but if we don’t know what they are and how to apply them, then we get hood winked by everyone who does. To be really effective with these principles takes knowing and practicing the skills until they are second nature in how we reason and think.



An idea that just came to me: wouldn’t it be great if we would form a debate team and study the principles of the above set of skills? Just a thought.

Joe D. Bell

[Clifford Black]

For a moment I can actually say what James Brown said "I feel GOOD" NOW---kyms!!!!!!

[SHANTE THEPHILOSOPHER RAYFORD]

OK DR.BLACK WHERE DO I START WITH THIS THING CALLED POWER? THE DEF- IS A POSSESSION OF CONTROL, AUTHORITY OR INFLUENCE OVER OTHERS, A CONTROLLING GROUP, THE ABILITY TO ACT OR PRODUCE CHANGE AND I COULD GO ON AND ON. BUT AS I WAS LISTENING TO YOU THIS THING CALLED POWER BROUGHT ME TO THINKING AND THOUGHT. SO WHAT IS THINKING, TO FORM OR HAVE IN THE MIND, TO FORM A MENTAL PICTURE, TO SUBJECT THE PROCESSES OF LOGICAL THOUGHT, TO EXERCISE THE POWER OF JUDGEMENT,CONCEPTION, OR INFERENCE, TO HAVE IN OR CALL TO MIND A THOUGHT, TO HAVE THE MIND ENGAGED IN REFLECTION, MEDITATE. SO I SAID TO MYSELF THAT IN ORDER TO HAVE POWER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO THINK, AND THEN I HEARD YOU SAY THAT MAN OR MEN IS A MENTAL BEING SO WHAT I GOT OUT FROM THIS IS THAT IF YOU CANNOT THINK FOR SELF THEN YOU HAVE NO POWER. SO MY QUESTION WOULD THEN BE HOW DOES ONE THINK CORRECTLY? BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT I MYSELF HAS BEEN IN ERROR IN MY WAY OF WHAT I PERCEIVED TO BE THINKING IS. AND LASTNIGHT IN CLASS YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT TOUCHED MY SPIRIT WHEN YOU WAS TALKING BOUT THE NINJA AND WESLY SNIPES, AND THEN WHEN I HEARD THE SHOW IT HIT ME WHEN I HEARD YOU SAY DONT GO AGAINST THE SYSTEM. SO THATS BEEN PART OF MY PROBLEM WITH LISTENING TO ALL OF THESE SO CALLED CONSCIOUS PEOPLE AND SO CALLED REVOULTIONARY'S THAT HAD ME WANTING TO FIGHT FOR MY PEOLPE BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT WE WAS AN OPPRESSED PEOPLE AND WE CAN'T KEEP LETTING THE POWERS TO BE OPPRESS US WE HAVE TO FIGHT AND STAND UP AND SHOUT BLACK POWER, BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL AND DEATH TO THIS WHITE DEVIL, BUT IN ACTUALITY THEY WAS LEADING ME TO A PATH OF SELF-DESTRUCTION UNTIL LASTNIGHT WHEN I HEARD YOU SAY WHAT YOU SAID AND I LISTENED TO THE PART YOU SAID DONT GO AGAINST THE SYSTEM, YOU SAID WE HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO MAKE OUR OWN BULLETS, MAKE OR OWN WEAPONS AND GROW OUR OWN FOOD AND IT WAS IF THE TRUTH JUST SLAPPED ME IN THE FACE AND SAID WAKE-UP. SO IF WE DONT GO AGAINST THE SYSTEM, THEN DO WE LEARN HOW TO EXIST WITH THE SYSTEM, AND OR LEARN HOW TO PLAY THE SYSTEM TO OUR ADVANTAGE? BUT IN REALITY DR.BLACK WE KNOW THAT THE SYSTEM IS MOST EVIL AND CRUEL AND OPPRESSIVE AND UNJUST AND ITS KILLING US AND ITS SET UP TO WHERE WE CANT WIN. BUT I GUESS YOU SAY IF ONE HAS THE POWER TO THINK THEN ONE CAN OVERCOME IT? THEN I HEARD YOU SAY LOOK UP PO, AND IT IS AN IDEA WHICH MOVES THINKING FORWARD TO A NEW PLACE FROM WHERE NEW IDEAS OR SOLUTIONS MAY BE FOUND, THEN IT TOOK ME TO LATERAL THINKING WHICH THEN TOOK ME TO DEDUCTIVE AND INDUCTIVE REASONING SO NOW AM THINKING IS THIS THE POWER THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING OF DR.BLACK?

[Aaron (Al) Lewis]

One thing that I know helped me was to find out exactly what I was saying when I spoke words like the system. What system? What is it? Where and when did it start? Is it real or is it in my imagination? Who is oppressed? What is oppression? Where did it start? How did it start?

Those are just a few questions I had to think about and then actually start doing the work required to attain some understanding about it. I was amazed at what I found. I can say this for now, so called black people hold no monopoly on suffering. In fact skin color is just another superficial distraction, a mote keeping many from seeing what is.

It is always best to start from the beginning if you know how or start from where you are and work back. That said what is the construct and what are the tools and modalities for deconstructing it? That was my focus when I started on this phase of the journey years ago. I can say I have gained a deeper understanding of what I am up against and this notion of race is so minor it is almost a no thing.

Peace and courage on your journey. I have found it an extraordinary experience in knowing.

[Clifford Black]

Namaska Mr. Rayford , You are now in the lower grades, as u work u will move closer to what this is all about--learn patience and this will help you to see with greater clarity and with time there is graduation into light!!!

(B).