Comments - On Jonathan Livingston Seagull: Posted by Jessica Pope - THE RED PILL2024-03-29T12:32:27Zhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=3561936%3ABlogPost%3A2965&xn_auth=noAnother link that needs to b…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2015-08-12:3561936:Comment:796042015-08-12T16:01:24.014ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
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<p>Another link that needs to be read and placed in the mental file!…</p>
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<p>Another link that needs to be read and placed in the mental file!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/07/26/425968146/whats-in-a-namaste-depends-if-you-live-in-india-or-the-u-s?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20150802&utm_campaign=mostemailed&utm_term=nprnews" target="_blank">http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/07/26/425968146/whats-in-a-namaste-depends-if-you-live-in-india-or-the-u-s?utm_source=npr_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=20150802&utm_campaign=mostemailed&utm_term=nprnews</a></p> Why Jonathan?, is the questio…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2015-08-12:3561936:Comment:797082015-08-12T15:59:15.225ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
<p>Why Jonathan?, is the question! The question was asked by Al Lewis, and, in answer, I think it is important to realize that some questions cannot be so easy to address, and so, it may be better if we wait and try to have this discussion in class.!</p>
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<p>Why Jonathan?, is the question! The question was asked by Al Lewis, and, in answer, I think it is important to realize that some questions cannot be so easy to address, and so, it may be better if we wait and try to have this discussion in class.!</p>
<p>Mr. Black</p> http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2013-04-15:3561936:Comment:639982013-04-15T19:08:49.812ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
<p><br/> <a href="http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/17906145/166780938/name/illusions_by_richardbach.pdf" target="_blank">http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/17906145/166780938/name/illusions_by_richardbach.pdf</a></p>
<p>This link is just in case the one below does not work. Good reading!</p>
<p><br/> <a href="http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/17906145/166780938/name/illusions_by_richardbach.pdf" target="_blank">http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/17906145/166780938/name/illusions_by_richardbach.pdf</a></p>
<p>This link is just in case the one below does not work. Good reading!</p> Will address the last questio…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2013-04-15:3561936:Comment:638992013-04-15T18:25:19.501ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
<p>Will address the last question about why, on my next post, in the mean time this is from TP to those who are doing the work.!</p>
<p><a href="https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/13e0ed67dcd41a85" target="_blank">https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/13e0ed67dcd41a85</a></p>
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<p>Will address the last question about why, on my next post, in the mean time this is from TP to those who are doing the work.!</p>
<p><a href="https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/13e0ed67dcd41a85" target="_blank">https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#inbox/13e0ed67dcd41a85</a></p>
<p>B.</p> Many times when reading stori…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2012-02-14:3561936:Comment:518842012-02-14T22:23:45.786ZAaron (Al) Lewishttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/AaronAlLewis
<p>Many times when reading stories directly related to them and that may be about a particular or behavior, the reader may disassociate themselves from the story believing that it is about somebody else with them being the exception. The brain has a peculiar way of blocking out any similarities. Anthropomorphic stories, such as the two outlined, can offer deep insight into human behavior by offering distance from the heat of the events being detailed. It is a trick of the brain, the brain loves…</p>
<p>Many times when reading stories directly related to them and that may be about a particular or behavior, the reader may disassociate themselves from the story believing that it is about somebody else with them being the exception. The brain has a peculiar way of blocking out any similarities. Anthropomorphic stories, such as the two outlined, can offer deep insight into human behavior by offering distance from the heat of the events being detailed. It is a trick of the brain, the brain loves to be tricked, because they offer a buffer from the reality of what may be.</p>
<p>JLS details the story of practice and the consequences of the quest for perfection. It outlines that there are no limits, that is always something more waiting to be learned. Animal Farm is a safe story for people of color to read in that it does not assault the brain in present time or human form. Instead it uses animals with very human characteristics. Too human in fact.</p>
<p>It requires courage as an after thought to ask oneself, "Exactly where do I or the people I am relative to fit in here"? One does themselves a gross disservice avoiding the question and an honest answer. It is only by performing critical self analysis that one can become aware of their pitfalls, misconceptions and feckless beliefs. These books are masterful at placing up front some things one may want to consider about their individuality and their collective.. The courage to do so however is optional.</p> Addressing the question that…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2012-02-14:3561936:Comment:518512012-02-14T21:27:51.782ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
<p>Addressing the question that was asked by Al Lewis on September 24th, 2009 "Why Jonathan"?----Human events or actions that take place or have taken place, are, more times than not, very hard to comprehend. A great deal of the information that is received in regard to events that shape our lives is no more than opinion or the afterlife of something that has been created out of fantasy. This process can lead to misconception. As a means to avoid misunderstanding, some time has to be applied…</p>
<p>Addressing the question that was asked by Al Lewis on September 24th, 2009 "Why Jonathan"?----Human events or actions that take place or have taken place, are, more times than not, very hard to comprehend. A great deal of the information that is received in regard to events that shape our lives is no more than opinion or the afterlife of something that has been created out of fantasy. This process can lead to misconception. As a means to avoid misunderstanding, some time has to be applied to doing some basic foundational work. It may be a wise thing for us to consider that we possibly do not know the difference between collective human dynamics and that of the indiviual. Out of all of the literature that I have come across in my lifetime these two books, "Jonathan and Animal Farm" have come quite close to giving some insight about the distinctive aspects of living this existence as an indiviual and as part of the collective. Al, if u are willing we will set a time for this topic as a discussion, if continued here this will become a book.</p>
<p>B.</p> When I first spoke with Dr. B…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2012-02-14:3561936:Comment:518812012-02-14T19:31:21.311ZCharles Cartwright (Neo)https://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CharlesCartwright
<p>When I first spoke with Dr. Black about becoming a student with him, he suggested that I read Jonathan Livingston Seagull. I purchased the book I started to read I put it down for some time, When speaking with Dr. Black he would ask have you read the book , I would reply I have not finished the book yet. Feeling quite bad for myself that a book with so few pages to give that retort. As time continued I picked the book up and started reading again this time I couldn’t stop, a few days past I…</p>
<p>When I first spoke with Dr. Black about becoming a student with him, he suggested that I read Jonathan Livingston Seagull. I purchased the book I started to read I put it down for some time, When speaking with Dr. Black he would ask have you read the book , I would reply I have not finished the book yet. Feeling quite bad for myself that a book with so few pages to give that retort. As time continued I picked the book up and started reading again this time I couldn’t stop, a few days past I was speaking with Dr. Black he ask again my heart started to smile and I retorted yes Sir Dr. Black I have and I have now learn that Living is more Important the Life. Wow I never had a feeling like that in my Life. So when ever ask to read Jonathan hopefully you find the reason and purpose, now that I am commenting I am going to give the book another read tonight and this will be my third time and I know I will gain more insight.</p>
<p>C.</p> Namaska Cookie---try this and…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2012-02-14:3561936:Comment:518772012-02-14T14:51:39.015ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
<p>Namaska Cookie---try this and see if it may be some of what you are looking to understand.</p>
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<p>Namaska Cookie---try this and see if it may be some of what you are looking to understand.</p>
<p>B.</p> Here is a piece I wrote years…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2009-09-24:3561936:Comment:35552009-09-24T10:06:14.000ZAaron (Al) Lewishttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/AaronAlLewis
Here is a piece I wrote years ago about Jonathan:<br />
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Mr. Black's organization is named Jonathon Airways. While I suspect I know why, I have never really asked him why he choose that particular book, out of others, that may have projected the same thought. After reading the book for the third time I began to see something’s and think some thoughts I had never considered. I discovered some natural by products to learning to fly and fly well.<br />
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I vividly remember a conversation I had with Mr. Black…
Here is a piece I wrote years ago about Jonathan:<br />
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Mr. Black's organization is named Jonathon Airways. While I suspect I know why, I have never really asked him why he choose that particular book, out of others, that may have projected the same thought. After reading the book for the third time I began to see something’s and think some thoughts I had never considered. I discovered some natural by products to learning to fly and fly well.<br />
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I vividly remember a conversation I had with Mr. Black that kinda paralleled one contained in the book. I have known a long time I was kind of "out there" not only because I read and read a lot, but because I was never satisfied with what I thought I knew and somehow as egomaniacal as I can be, the one part of my ego in check was the part that refuses to be a fool. That is to act as if I know when I don't.<br />
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It is painful to not know and sometimes downright shameful, for me at least. Yet' I'd rather face the pain and shame of not knowing than face the consequence of being stupid. So after studying with Cliff a few months I saw him at lunch and he says to me in his unique voice and style, "So you ready to fly huh”? One on one with Mr. Black is an exercise in paying attention, close attention.<br />
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"What", I thought, "You mean after all these years, after all I have read and experienced this aint flying"? Of course I was too ashamed and I must admit a tad bit intimidated by him to say that out loud. So he pointed out a few observations he had of me and he was quite accurate at that. I wanted so badly to soar way above the clouds to limits of the stratosphere and obviously, somehow I at least had found the intellectual courage to challenge what I thought I knew, but I was a ways off from learning the real rudiments of flying, er learning or are they not both the same?<br />
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So let's ask him why Jonathan and next why Animal Farm? Why not books written by a black author or afro centered writer?<br />
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So Mr. Black, why Jonathon?