When and how did you discover what race you are? - THE RED PILL2024-03-29T07:24:49Zhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/forum/topics/when-and-how-did-you-discover?commentId=3561936%3AComment%3A55502&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThis thread may help those th…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2012-08-10:3561936:Comment:555022012-08-10T16:20:31.651ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
<p>This thread may help those that/who are serious about building their time machine.</p>
<p>B.</p>
<p>This thread may help those that/who are serious about building their time machine.</p>
<p>B.</p> Namaska DC.
upon reading this…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2011-02-15:3561936:Comment:113272011-02-15T14:46:07.033ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
<p>Namaska DC.</p>
<p>upon reading this I then had to get up and get a coat to cover my body to protect myself from the cold chill that manifested. THANK YOU DEAR ONE AND JUST MAYBE BEFORE I GO (HEH HEH AND IT AIN'T FUNNY)......(B).</p>
<p>Namaska DC.</p>
<p>upon reading this I then had to get up and get a coat to cover my body to protect myself from the cold chill that manifested. THANK YOU DEAR ONE AND JUST MAYBE BEFORE I GO (HEH HEH AND IT AIN'T FUNNY)......(B).</p> Brother AL---I think that u a…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2011-02-15:3561936:Comment:115642011-02-15T14:37:22.327ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
<p>Brother AL---I think that u are flying thru high school but please remember (when) that I told you that U had for some reason acquired a HEAD start and that because of that you would have to be careful in your journey---I am happy to realize (HE HEARD). When you get there at your higher ground and graduation you will probably sit down with Helena and Annie and KM and the Olcott. (AMONG OTHERS).</p>
<p>(B).</p>
<p>Brother AL---I think that u are flying thru high school but please remember (when) that I told you that U had for some reason acquired a HEAD start and that because of that you would have to be careful in your journey---I am happy to realize (HE HEARD). When you get there at your higher ground and graduation you will probably sit down with Helena and Annie and KM and the Olcott. (AMONG OTHERS).</p>
<p>(B).</p> Race was not regarded, by me,…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2011-02-15:3561936:Comment:113952011-02-15T04:06:53.298ZDominique Christinahttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/DominiqueChristina
Race was not regarded, by me, as a construct until I was grown. The "understanding" I walked around with was that race had do with a person's complexion and that complexion had everything to do with who had and who had not. "Black" folks were history's bad luck accidents. Perpetual victims. And "white" folks were responsible for all of the imbalances and injustices. Period. Race as illusion came late for me. Its impact was seismic and disruptive. All this time? I have been "black and proud" all…
Race was not regarded, by me, as a construct until I was grown. The "understanding" I walked around with was that race had do with a person's complexion and that complexion had everything to do with who had and who had not. "Black" folks were history's bad luck accidents. Perpetual victims. And "white" folks were responsible for all of the imbalances and injustices. Period. Race as illusion came late for me. Its impact was seismic and disruptive. All this time? I have been "black and proud" all this time?! Clamoring for a thing called Africa. Needing to feel connected to her. Needing to find where I could stand powerfully in these conversations with history and that meant leaning into the "movements" and ideologies that told me we were black and beautiful. Fuck. Whodathunkit...I have taken bullshit and been convinced of my own inferiority and in an effort to reject that I bought into MORE bullshit. It is an onerous inconvenience to realize how far away from truth I actually was. I knew I was black before I had language to give it. And I think I resented it initially. Felt put upon by genealogy and history. Unpacking all of that has been deep...and I aint done... Of course being black, as I h…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2011-02-13:3561936:Comment:106992011-02-13T03:51:46.174ZAaron (Al) Lewishttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/AaronAlLewis
<p>Of course being black, as I had became came to be popular and accepted, yet it had its drawbacks. Exactly what did that mean? What was different now that I had an identity that was making a political statement that said to the establishment, "No matter how shameful you tried to make my color we took it and made it something powerful and beautiful." I wondered what happened to all those others who were in opposition to this black thing? Where do they go? What did they do? </p>
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<p>Of course being black, as I had became came to be popular and accepted, yet it had its drawbacks. Exactly what did that mean? What was different now that I had an identity that was making a political statement that said to the establishment, "No matter how shameful you tried to make my color we took it and made it something powerful and beautiful." I wondered what happened to all those others who were in opposition to this black thing? Where do they go? What did they do? </p>
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<p>I even knew who a few of them were and they looked and acted sullen, kind of raw. Little did I know they would come up with another plan much more acceptable to white people or the establishment, as we called it, and that this time they would put some viscosity in their move of obfuscation.</p>
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<p>What was also very confusing and disconcerting to me was that in my new found blackness and the ideal of what it was, a unified, powerful people ready to take real and effective action, few people actually were willing to do anything of substance. The same resistance and fears I had seen and heard about all my life was there, but this time it was coming out of people's mouths that wore Afro and dashikis.</p>
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<p>I did not have the advantage of having studied the history and actions of this group that is not a group then as I have done now. I still <em>believed</em> there was a monolithic group called black people and though I was aware we had our share of "Uncle Toms" and "Aint Sally's" I hoped they one day they too would see the light and join in a real way the struggle against oppression. How foolish and idealistic I was. However, I had no clue of how deep the program of race and its inherent association of inferiority had been embedded into my psyche. </p>
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<p>Little did I know thoughts that were projected into me by people I believed were well meaning would actually deepen my thoughts, though in shadow, of defectiveness, unworthiness and inferiority. Mantras like, "You have to be twice as good and 10 times better" or "I am somebody" or 'I am just as good as" or "I have to prove myself" and the enigmatic, "I am a man", would come back to haunt me many times over. </p>
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<p>Later to my chagrin and horror I would come to understand that these were all mental time bombs with a delayed fuse designed to diffuse and deflate any attempt to really compete with so called white folks and even if I did I would discover I was doing it for all the wrong reasons. In fact I'd one day come to realize it was all a waste of energy and effort, that I didn't have to prove anything to anybody. More on that at another time. What do you think about these revelations? </p> And peace to U Brother Rayfor…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2011-02-12:3561936:Comment:108932011-02-12T21:47:33.525ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
<p>And peace to U Brother Rayford!!!!</p>
<p>(B)</p>
<p>And peace to U Brother Rayford!!!!</p>
<p>(B)</p> let us find out, if, in fact,…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2011-02-12:3561936:Comment:110052011-02-12T21:45:45.267ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
<p>let us find out, if, in fact, people are ready to know about this issue that they all say so much about as if what they are saying actually makes sense. I am waiting for one, just one, rational conversation that makes some small bit of sense regarding this matter.</p>
<p>(B).</p>
<p>let us find out, if, in fact, people are ready to know about this issue that they all say so much about as if what they are saying actually makes sense. I am waiting for one, just one, rational conversation that makes some small bit of sense regarding this matter.</p>
<p>(B).</p> We will be sponsoring an open…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2011-02-12:3561936:Comment:108922011-02-12T21:28:26.242ZAaron (Al) Lewishttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/AaronAlLewis
<p>We will be sponsoring an open house on this very issue this coming friday.</p>
<p>Inward Journey</p>
<p>Open House at Java Juice & Jazz</p>
<p>Friday, Feb. 18, 2011</p>
<p>6:30 P.M.</p>
<p>We will be sponsoring an open house on this very issue this coming friday.</p>
<p>Inward Journey</p>
<p>Open House at Java Juice & Jazz</p>
<p>Friday, Feb. 18, 2011</p>
<p>6:30 P.M.</p> It appears that a few are sta…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2011-02-12:3561936:Comment:110672011-02-12T17:47:02.172ZClifford Blackhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/CliffordBlack
It appears that a few are starting to get it---after hunderds of years, its about time!!!!!
It appears that a few are starting to get it---after hunderds of years, its about time!!!!!
WELL, IF I REMEMBER I WOUL…tag:redpilltraining.ning.com,2011-02-12:3561936:Comment:106962011-02-12T17:31:58.453ZSHANTE THEPHILOSOPHER RAYFORDhttps://redpilltraining.ning.com/profile/SHANTETHEPHILOSOPHERRAYFORD
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<p> WELL, IF I REMEMBER I WOULD SAY MY MOM AND MY GRANDPARENTS, I HEARD THEM SAY THAT I WAS BLACK,I REALLY DIDNT EVEN GIVE IT A SECOND THOUGHT WHEATHER OR NOT IT WAS TRUE, I TOOK IT FOR WHAT IT WAS CUZ MY PARENTS TOLD ME SO. I HAVE BEEN BLACK ALL MY LIFE UP UNTIL ABOUT 3 OR 4 MONTHS AGO WHEN THE VEIL WAS REMOVED FRM MY EYES. NOW AS A CHILD GROWING UP I REALLY DIDNT KNOW OR UNDERSTAND WHAT BLACK WAS, ALL I KNEW IS THAT IT WAS THE COLOR OF MY SKIN AND THATS ALL. I DIDNT KNOW WHAT RACE…</p>
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<p> WELL, IF I REMEMBER I WOULD SAY MY MOM AND MY GRANDPARENTS, I HEARD THEM SAY THAT I WAS BLACK,I REALLY DIDNT EVEN GIVE IT A SECOND THOUGHT WHEATHER OR NOT IT WAS TRUE, I TOOK IT FOR WHAT IT WAS CUZ MY PARENTS TOLD ME SO. I HAVE BEEN BLACK ALL MY LIFE UP UNTIL ABOUT 3 OR 4 MONTHS AGO WHEN THE VEIL WAS REMOVED FRM MY EYES. NOW AS A CHILD GROWING UP I REALLY DIDNT KNOW OR UNDERSTAND WHAT BLACK WAS, ALL I KNEW IS THAT IT WAS THE COLOR OF MY SKIN AND THATS ALL. I DIDNT KNOW WHAT RACE WAS, I DIDNT KNOW WHAT RACISM WAS. ALL I KNEW WAS THAT I WAS BLACK WITHOUT ANY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT WAS TO BE BLACK! I AM NOW 29 AND NOW I CAN TRUELY SAY THAT I AM NOT BLACK, I AM THAT I AM! HOTEP</p>